Open Challenge to Shabir Ally

Debate on the credibility of your own prophet


Rebuttals to the publications & debates by Shabir Ally

found (mainly) at the sites

"Islamic Information & Dawah Centre International"

"Islam Answers Back"

"Answering for Islam"


"Islamic Information" began as an attractive site with a relatively moderate tone. The part mainly of interest to us is Shabir Ally's section "Comparative Religions" that is composed of articles which criticize some beliefs and practices of Christianity. It is also interesting that he has several sections which criticize the beliefs of Jehovahs Witnesses - using Christian teachings to refute their beliefs! As this site grows we will make regular updates to respond to new articles. In February 2000, Shabir Ally added "Islam Answers Back" which is an open invitation to respond to his articles there as well. In addition, "Answering for Islam" presents audio files of Shabir Ally's debates, and some of his claims at those events need and will receive responses as well.

[ Since we are sick of Shabir Ally's "hide and seek games", we will link to his articles
only from this index page but not from our individual rebuttals pages. ]

"Comparative" Religions
Jesus in the Qur'an    RESPONSES: 1, 2
What the Bible says about Muhammad    RESPONSES: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
The One True God    RESPONSES: 1, 2
Can Muslims Use the Bible in Dawah?    Shabir Ally and the Use of the Bible for Dawah
Who really is the Paracletos?    RESPONSE, see also *, *
Questions about the Qur'an    RESPONSE
How can Muslims be assured that the Qur'an is the Word of God?    RESPONSE
101 Clear Contradictions in the Bible    101 Cleared-Up Contradictions in the Bible
What Jesus said about Fasting    RESPONSE
Original Sin    RESPONSE
101 questions for Jehovah's Witnesses    RESPONSE
Eating Pork    Combating Porkophobia
Biblical Criticism    RESPONSE
God Begets Not ... The Parable of the Wicked Tenants    Response: [Part 1], [Part 2]
Tough Questions and Easy Answers    RESPONSE
Robert Morey's Moon-god Myth & Other Deceptive Attacks On Islam    Dr. Morey's response (off site link), cf. these articles
Science in the Quran
  1. From a Gaseous Mass to the Heavens and the Earth
  2. The Fusing and Separating of the Heavens and the Earth
  3. Avoiding the Mistakes of Genesis
  4. Six Days of Creation or Six Periods?
  5. How Old is the Earth?
  6. Interstellar Galactic Material
  7. How Many Earths are There?
  8. Organization of the Universe
  9. What Holds up the Sky?
  10. Comparing Apples and Oranges (Light of Sun and Moon)
  11. The Sun & Moon and Their Orbits
  12. The Sun & Moon Move With Their Own Motion
  13. What Shape is the Earth?
  14. Further articles on the issue of Quran & Science

Islam Answers Back
Answers to Alleged Contradictions in the Qur'an    RESPONSE
Does the Qur'an contain any prophecies about the future?    RESPONSE
Is the Qur'an copied from the Bible?    RESPONSE
The Real Jesus    RESPONSE
Is Jesus Omnipotent? Omniscient?    RESPONSE
The Parable of the Wicked Tenants    Response: [Part 1], [Part 2]
Paul Believed That Jesus is not God    RESPONSE
Evidence From Acts of the Apostles, Jesus is a Servant of God    This Is Our God, the Servant King
Jesus and the Father are two Separate Beings    RESPONSE
Was Jesus Perfect God and Perfect Man at the Same Time?    RESPONSE
What John Really Says : Evidence from the Fourth Gospel    RESPONSE
Is there an Evolution in NT Christology? — Analyzing the Claims that the Christological Portraits of the Bible Are Contradictory: [Part 1], [Part 2]
Questions to Counter Critics : Questions about Jesus, the Trinity, ...    RESPONSE
Jesus in the Qur'an    Responses: [1], [2]
Jesus' Forgotten Sayings    RESPONSE
Bible Verses Explained : Some Misunderstood Verses of the Bible    Response: [Part 1], [Part 2]
The Debate with Alan Storkey    RESPONSE
Failed Prophecies (apparently abandoned)    Failed Prophecy?
Confessions of the New American Bible    RESPONSE
Since Shabir Ally uses, and advises other Muslim polemicists to use, the St. Joseph medium sized edition of the New American Bible (NAB) [*], a Catholic translation of the Holy Bible, we thought the readers would be interested to find out what conservative Catholics think of this version (1, 2). These articles demonstrate that, apart from not being a very faithful translation of the original languages, the critical notes of the NAB do not accurately reflect the historic position of the Roman Catholic Church since it does hold to the infallibility and inerrancy of God's Word, the Holy Bible in its offical teachings and canons.
Shabir Ally's Debates : Claims & Tactics
 
  Seeking unfair advantage through hiding his identity:

Shabir Ally vs. Dr. James White (Seattle, October 19, 2007)    Comments, reflections, further discussion by
   Shabir Ally: 1
   James White: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, etc.
   Sam Shamoun:
   The Purpose and Cause of Jesus' Death (Part 1, Part 2)
   Ipsissima Verba or Ipsissima Vox?
   The Islamic Concept of Corporate Justice
   Jesus as God's Son in Luke-Acts
Shabir Ally vs. Dr. James White (Biola University, May 7, 2006)    Refutation of Shabir Ally’s (Re-)Assertion that Matthew 24:42
   improves the image of Jesus over that of Mark 13:35
   The Inspiration of the New Testament
Shabir Ally vs. Dr. William Lane Craig (McMaster University, Canada, March 6, 2002)    Divine Love: A Biblical and Quranic Perspective
Shabir Ally vs. Dr. Anis Shorrosh (Glasgow, May 13-16, 2005)    More Evidence of Shabir Ally’s Inconsistency ([Part 1], [Part 2])
Shabir Ally vs. Jay Smith (Atlanta, October 19, 2000)    Shabir Ally and the crucified Messiah
Shabir Ally vs. Jay Smith (Leicester, May 8, 1998)    Review
   Analysis and rebuttal (forthcoming)
     Shabir Ally's Misuse of Bruce M. Metzger's Writings
     Some of Shabir Ally's Favorite Questions
   Some More of Shabir Ally's Favorite Questions
   The Quran, Bible Preservation and the Crucifixion
   Shabir Ally - Debate Material: Is the Quran the Word of God?
Other issues:    Joshua's long day, ...


We also discovered this Muslim comment on Shabir Ally's Islamic Knowledge and Standing in the Muslim Community.

 

Shabir Ally is Dr. Badawi's primary disciple, the founder of the Islamic Da'wah Centre, Toronto, Canada, and a relatively prominent speaker and debator. Some more background information might be helpful to those who are called to engage him in public debate.

Not all of his material that is available on the internet is included in his own site, but other individuals' or organizations' web pages also carry parts of Shabir Ally's material ([Aa, Ab, B]).

Update [July 15, 1999]: We had previously observed that Shabir Ally's site had discontinued the display of his "101 Clear Contradictions in the Bible" for several months. However, they have added it back to their material in the last few days. Therefore, I have sent today another request for a link to the response.

Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 15:19:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jochen Katz <jkatz@math.gatech.edu>

To: comments@islaminfo.com
Subject: Request for a link


Dear Mr. Shabir Ally,

I know you continue to invite many Christians to open and
fair exchange in live dialogues and debates in regard to 
many issues concerning Christianity and Islam.  It is my 
sincere hope that you will exhibit the same characteristics 
of openness and fairness also on your own website so that 
both sides can voice their views and be heard.

In particular, since your article of "101 Bible Contradictions"
has now been added to your site at 

    http://www.islaminfo.com/comp101.htm

I respectfully request that you give on that page a link to 
the Christian answer to your presentation, located at 

    http://debate.org.uk/topics/apolog/contrads.htm

If you want to go further in your desire to open dialogue,
I would be thrilled to see you place a link from your 
various articles in the section "Comparative Religions"
to our responses that can be found at 

   http://answering-islam.org/Responses/Shabir-Ally/

May such an open exchange of our respective convictions 
help many readers to come to an informed evaluation on 
the basis of knowing both sides of all the issues.


Sincerely,

Jochen Katz

The resulting meagre email correspondence with Shabir Ally was interesting. He continues to ignore the request for linking from the "101 Bible Contradictions" article to the Christian response but instead asked for a public debate with me. Why does he not find it in his interest to enter into a direct exchange of arguments online? Does he need to have an emotionally charged atmosphere of a public debate to make his arguments look good? Is a calm and rational comparison of the evidence and its conclusions by the reader on his computer screen not to his liking?

Note (Feb. 23, 2000): The "101 Bible Contradictions" page has now moved to a different location on Ally's site: http://www.islaminfo.com/comparative/101-contradications-part-1-24.htm but the request remains the same.

Shabir Ally has started another site (then abandoned and subsequently resurrected in a different design at this place) where he responds specifically to our Qur'an Contradictions. As you will notice, we gladly link to him on this page even though he never asked or informed us about his page. It is interesting though, that he claims none of our contradictions are valid, even though he has only attempted a response to one of them. (See also these notes on Shabir Ally's constantly shifting links.)

Note (March 7, 2003): Shabir Ally continues to move around his Bible Contradictions page, it is now at the address: http://www.islaminfo.com/articleview.asp?level=6&catID=1, but everything else is as before.

Regarding Shabir's 101 Clear Contradictions in the Bible, available at least on these Muslim sites ([1], [2], [3], [4], [5]): All of these Muslim pages that display Shabir Ally's "101 Bible contradictions" have been asked if they would be willing to link to the response as well. [1] - [3] have not responded at all. [4] has refused to link even though he starts with the invitation "... come let us reason together." [5], who has copied down [4], has never answered to any linking requests either.


Originally, in this place was a documentation of Shabir Ally's behavior in his second debate with Jay Smith. New developments have made me decide, to move this discussion to its own page.

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